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PostSubject: Kony 2012    Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:20 pm

http://www.kony2012.com/

Just something I thought I'd share with you guys. Firstly, no, it's not about a presidential candidate. There's a great video on that site about the LRA leader Joseph Kony in Uganda who abducts children and turns them into child soldiers and sex slaves, and it also says what can be done to help stop him. It's definitely worth watching.
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:06 am

Kony is evil but the guys making the video suck pretty badly, too, as they support the Ugandan military, who also rape and murder civilians. Here is a good article on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:29 am

I'm not really trying to support the movement as much as I am trying to support awareness of the issue. Yes, I am fully aware that the Ugandan military isn't much better, but the more people who can know the better.
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:10 am

All government wars are unjust.
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:02 pm

What if its a war against an unjust war?
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:08 pm

Then that would then turn unjust, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Kony 2012    Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:07 pm

Every government justification for war is based on false premises. This one being that we're trying to capture/arrest someone evil.

Paul and Ted are shooting at each other, since Ted has committed horrible crimes and Paul is trying to free himself from Ted's grip. (Let them be our analogy for Uganda and Kony.) The usual justification for Joe (or, America) to get involved is that Paul needs Joe's help, and if Joe would just get rid of Ted, everything would be perfect. Works very well when you're thinking of governments as people.

But they're not.

A much better analogy would be that Ted commits an awful crime, and Paul fires cruise missiles at Ted, destroying countless blocks trying to get to Ted, who escapes. Joe then gets involved, firing a submachine gun variously down streets hoping to strike Ted. That is a much better analogy for government wars.
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